"All grain is ordained for the use of man,...to be the staff of life....
All grain is good for the food of man;...--
Nevertheless, wheat for man...."

Doctrine and Covenants 89: 14, 16-17 (Known as the Word of Wisdom)

Our Blog Names

While playing around, we happened upon names that mean wheat. We kind of liked them so we adopted them as our blog names. We'll be signing our blogs with our "wheat" names.

Gwenith - Welch (female) is Honeybee
Basak
- Turkish (female) is Grandma
Zea - Latin (female) is Walkers

OUR QUEST

Basak: My quest is to understand and know why the Lord said, "Nevertheless, wheat for man". I want to know how to prepare and use it in the Lord's ways and thus, it will taste good and our families will want to eat it. I want to know why the word "nevertheless" was used, how much we need and why. My quest is to know it all.

Gwenith: Several months ago, the thought came to me. How will we eat in the Millennium? That sounds funny, I know, but what I mean when I say that is, 'What is a higher law of health and nutrition and how can I eat that way using my food storage?' This is what I am working on.

Zea: My quest... to learn and live the word of wisdom so that me and my family will be blessed to live a healthy life. In this process I've ended up having several "sub" quests, such as learning more about grains, herbs, what things in our diet and life are created by "evil and conspiring men", and needless to say one subject leads to another. Right now I'm trying to put the knowledge I've gathered so far (while still gathering more) into practice for me and my family... not an easy task when you have a picky eater!

And as we pursue our quests, we desire to help others.

Wednesday, May 27, 2009

New author on blog

We've got a new author on our blog. Her wheat name is Zea.

She's into so many of the natural's and healthy's. We're excited to have her join us!!!!!!! We should have an introduction soon.

Basak

Carrot juice

We are so taught by the world and sometimes we are so brainwashed that we cannot see truth. I know I've mentioned carrot juice before but this really struck me. This woman was so sick she could only take carrot juice by the teaspoon full and she only had it three times a day for about a week then she gradually increased her intake of juice to 8 ounces every 24 hours. Finally she was taking one gallon a day. She had no other food for 18 months. She was well and healthy and lived to be quite old.

So why are we taught that we need to eat so much? Why are we taught that we need so many different foods? Why are we taught it just is not good to do without food for a day? Why are we taught that we need all these specialty foods? Why are we fed this man-made food and not God's food? Why do we always have to have a substitute for something that is not good for us?

I think our "healthy" society gives us the answers to those questions!

I used to juice and have again begun. My first glass of the juice made my whole body buzz. It was neat. I felt like every cell in my body was jumping up and down. I'm not worried about doing it every day. Some days we'll do a smoothie and some days some juice. It feels so good to be incorporating what I know to be truth.

I continue to eat wheat -- bread, sprouts, smoothies, cereal, granola, casseroles, etc. Our grocery shopping has drastically changed. It's good and has also helped with the budget.

I was told just today that I surely didn't look my age. I smiled and so did every cell in my body!

Basak

Friday, May 22, 2009

Self talk, not feeling well, and feel like I'm in kindergarten

There are so many self-help books these days on how we program ourselves by what we say to ourselves. I've decided I'm going to use some new self talk. When that time comes that I say, "Oh, I'm full", I'm also going to say, "Let me know when we're again truly hungry." I'm hoping this will help me get the "when" of "needing" to eat and get past my own habits.

This whole thing isn't very easy for me. I guess I'm just a nibbler, snacker, food addict -- whatever you want to call it. But I still know when I eat to "full", the nibbling and snacking just aren't in the picture.

I haven't felt the best the past couple of days. Been using some essential oils and when they do their thing, the body does indeed process. And ..... what has that done to my appetite? I've not gotten hungry until a few hours after regular eating time. One day, I ate because I just knew I should be hungry and of course I knew my body needed food!! Yah right!!! Not only did I not feel good but I then felt bloated and yukky in other ways -- like I do when I over eat! Well dah!!! However, when I did good, the hunger did eventually come. And full came quicker and with less food. Interesting - but yet I know I already knew it would be like that.

All learning lessons but I truly KNOW our bodies talk to us and tell us what is best --- if we will but just listen! And I feel like I'm in kindergarten!!!

Basak

Sunday, May 17, 2009

Is "full" based on quantity of what the body can handle?

Interesting discovery -----

The other day I ate pizza (the order out kind) --- and "full" came faster than I expected. Had to analyze that. I believe the body knew it would have a harder time processing what was being ingested. So- would the nature of the body have "full" come faster? Ironically, it took a bit longer to reach "hungry" -- so in essence, does the body take longer to process food made with many man-made ingredients along with all their preservatives and thus, longer to again feel a true "hungry"?

So when we eat before "hungry" arrives, is the body not yet finished processing. When we add more food, an analogy could be like we are causing a flood. Dams begin to form, body parts cannot contain it all so causes inflammation (which is a major cause of illness), and also causes leakages and hemorrhages inside the body.

Oh my -- what a disservice I've done to my body for many years. Another analogy --- When I fill my car up with gas, it can only hold so much. I make a choice to fill it with the good, better or best for it. Why would I not want to do the same with my body? We had a Camero and have to admit it made me want to be naughty. We took good care of it and only put into it what was best for it. We wanted optimum performance. I think I'm becoming stronger in my determination to truly treat my body like a temple and use the correct fuel to produce the energy it needs. Why would we want to do differently? Of course, it's because of all the "wonderful and tasty" of the world. But ya know -- all that "wonderful and tasty" surely does not make me feel good and it doesn't make a lot of other people feel good either.

A rather long explanation of another experience with "full". Oh well......

Basak

Fasting and prayer and "full"

The scriptures are filled with the words "fasting" and "prayer". When I ended my fast, I wondered if "full" would be different in that I would not consume as much food. Sure enough, I was right. Interesting!

Basak

About 95 percent there!!!!

Funny how things work and I love it!!!!

Right in my daily scripture reading, I came to that wonderful section in the Doctrine and Covenants on the Word of Wisdom. I had the thought that I was going to try and read it and just let it happen. Usually I try to force the things I desire to understand. And here is the Lord's word on just that so really wanted to just "hear" what was going to be said to me.

The reading was amazing! I realized how truly SIMPLE it is! I thought about my Dad. He always grew a garden and I remember him just eating the fruits and veges for lunch, along with the homemade bread my mother always baked and many again for dinner and how healthy he was for most of his life; and the same with my mother. I thought about the "season thereof". I thought about our seasons as compared to other places in the world. I thought about how fun it is to partake of those fresh apricots, cherries, peaches and apples and all the other yummies in their season of harvest. And I love tomato sandwiches. I thought about when it's hot and not really feeling like eating much. And then I thought about grains -- how they store because of those outer shells and how they are what would be used during those times when the gardens are not. Of course, all of you probably already know the simpleness of it all but I enjoyed my waa laa! I also totally understood why the Lord said what he said about flesh of beasts -- again, so simple.

So knowing that the grains would serve us well all year (and this went to awhile back when I said I wondered if we just weren't eating enough), and having been proving this all of my life it seems because I remembered that I ate whole wheat cereal almost every morning as a child and feel I really do eat my grains (but I believe it has not been in the quantities needed for my body because I fill it up with other things instead), I again asked "why wheat for man?"

I just felt that this little kernel of wheat has the most in it of what man's body needs. I use wheat in ever so many ways but am now going to make a closer study of how to eat it, when to eat it and with what, and how much and when. Seems complicated but it's just experiment, eat and pay attention and listen. It's just around the corner if I will zero in and put the knowledge I have to use to answer these questions.

The "seasons" of growing are upon us. What a wonderful time to put things to the test -- the hungry and full, the eating of wheat, the bounties of fruits, veges and herbs. It's going to be a wonderful summer of enjoying God's created food and receiving my answer!

Basak

Saturday, May 9, 2009

The weirdest thing (for me anyway)

As I try and "feel" this full thing, I've found I'll be eating and I'll feel this something (and it's been the same thing) and wonder, "is that it?" I think about it and know I'm not full. So I continue eating and then all of a sudden, there it is and found myself saying earlier today, "Oh, there it is!" and I know I do truly recognize it. I wonder if the first feeling is the 80 percent full -- which some say is the place we should really stop. More keying into the tune of the body and learning is coming. I can just "feel" it!!! LOL It surely is still weird and amazing to me that I'm just NOT even hungry in between meals when I get "full". This is so unlike me ---- and the way I've been eating for so long.

Basak

Friday, May 8, 2009

Very interesting -- this hungry and full thing - many surprises

First off -- know that this is just my sorting through all this. I guess, really, the whole blog is kind of like that but this is specifically to the hungry and full thing.

As I've been doing this, I've noticed a couple of things.

1. At the evening meal, when I get to "full", I do not have a desire to eat and munch the rest of the night. It's been this way for three nights and I had no reaction feelings. One night I even watched a couple hours of TV. This is my most prone time to eat so this is very surprising to me. And for the record, I had to add more food than I originally dished up at meals to obtain "full". This also surprised me.

2. When I "snack" in between, which I just did this morning -- my body reacted with feelings of bloating and prickly insides. This caused an "mmmmmmm????"

3. I remembered that at breakfast, I did not zero in on the "full" feeling. I really do not believe I reached that point. Maybe that's one reason for the feeling of "wanting" at snack time.

I had one more thought....... Many people do not make enough hydrochloric acid (a stomach acid) to facilitate proper digestion. Do our bodies need a certain amount of time, depending on what we eat, to process it all and then to make new acid to be ready for the next meal?

When I ate three meals - waiting until "hungry" and ending with "full", my body just seemed ready and there were no reactions with anything I ate. And I've had reactions from some of those things before. When I had a snack today, had my body not processed everything? Did it not have enough stomach acids to do the job? So was reacting the result? I feel there is truth in this.

We really do spend a lot of time feeding our bodies a little here and a little there between a lot here and a lot there. The body probably does not ever have time to get to that point of "I'm ready".

It's been a fun three days and I'm sure the learning will continue. By the way, the weight lessened and maintained during those three days by a pound. Considering what I was eating, that, too, was surprising!!!

It's all just amazing!!!!!

Basak

Wednesday, May 6, 2009

The other book was...... and .......having an open mind

It is so refreshing to know others are doing so many neat things. I like her style, her wit, her thrift, her wisdom and her testimony.

She also has a website.
"I Dare You To Eat It" by Liesa Card

Makes eating wheat, and other longer-stored items, very doable for ever so many. It's worth checking out!!!!

I'm thankful for friends! I was turned onto this by such a one in the preparedness world.

I'm also thankful for the open mind the Lord has given me. It hasn't always been that way. Seven years ago, I was very content -- living the empty nest life and enjoying serving. You've lived quite awhile so kind of thinking there's not much else to learn and enjoy and endure. My son asked me to read a book. I pooh-poohed him and he continued to pester me. I finally thought that if this is really THIS important to him, that I'd just read it. When I finished, I realized I loved it and what it taught me! I remember thinking, "Why would I not want to continue to learn? Why would I close the door to such wonderful information the Lord still desired to give me?" It was a major milestone in my "older" life and I'm really enjoying and lovin' all the learning!!!

Basak

Time spent thinking and pondering always leads to more learning.

There is just something wonderful about thinking and pondering. You ask a question and all these things run through your mind. At times, it's really profound and an instant answer. At other times, it leads to other things needed before you can obtain that answer.

And this is the road I've been on the past few weeks.

I told you about reading "In Defense of Food" by Michael Pollen. I have to admit that I thought about it for several days. He basically tells us that we need to let go of all what the world teaches and eat. Yes, we need to eat whole, healthy foods but let go of the eating this food for this nutrient and that food for that nutrient. It really opened me up -- made me free, sort of speak. I was so hung up on trying to get all the nutrients the world is telling me I need and where they are and some I can't even get unless I go clear across the continent......well, I think you can see what I mean. I'm so thankful I read that book.

After digesting it, I was led to two other books.

Years ago I remember hearing about/reading about a group of Christian ladies that were having a huge success at losing weight by being accountable to Jesus. I've been thinking about that a lot so decided to take a look on the internet. I ordered the book, "The Eden Diet", by Rita M. Hancock, M.D. and so enjoyed it. It was such an affirmation of "In Defense of Food". And it was insight to Gwenith's question: "How did Adam and Eve eat in the Garden of Eden?"

And, I've also posted about satiation. Well, she addressed that in a big way - recognizing "hunger" and "full" and I realized I have neither.

So -- I've gone to the table to learn. Have to admit, it's been kind of fun. I did finally experience "full" once and I'm still working on identifying true hunger - rather than bored, stressed, waiting, frustrated, etc., etc., etc.!!!! This is going to take more than a couple of days!

When I spend the time thinking, it seems I'm always led to more understanding and answers. I love that part. It always requires work but amazing how it all fits.

I'm wondering if someone already knows the answer to what I seek. Oh, I know the Lord does, but when that answer comes about why wheat for man, is it going to come from something someone else will have already addressed? It really doesn't matter. My journey has been awesome and continues to be.

I do know this little reading spurt has brought me closer to my answer -- in fact closer than I thought it would. I don't know how - other than it might be really a matter of my gaining my own self-control and then the Lord will give me the blessings that go with that.

Anyway --- Onward and Upward!

Basak

Saturday, May 2, 2009

I can't believe I really did this.

I knew I needed to make bread today. Last night I had some sauerkraut and as I was putting the left-overs away, I wondered what I would do with them. I had the thought to put them in the bread. Now I know I would not think such a thought. It had to come from somewhere else.

I remembered this morning, and that's unusual, so I did it!!! And as long as I was doing "it", I also blended some wheat sprouts with it that needed to be used - probably about 1/3 cup. I added 1 cup water with it so it would blend and then added the remaining amount when it was called for. Amazing that when the dough got all mixed, there was only a very slight hint of the smell of sauerkraut. When it was baked, there was no smell of it and the bread turned out great!

What does all this mean? I have no idea! But I guess this is one way to get those fermented enzymes in there.

Here's the original bread recipe - no sauerkraut (tee hee)

Whole Wheat Bread (takes about an hour and makes 2 - 8x4 loaves)
3 c whole wheat flour
1/3 c gluten flour, sifted
1 1/4 T. instant yeast
2 1/2 c very warm tap water
1 T salt
1/3 c oil
1/3 c honey or 1/2 c sugar
1 1/4 T bottled lemon juice
2 cups whole wheat flour

Mix together first three ingredients in mixer with a dough hook. Add water all at once and mix for 1 minute. Cover and let rest for 10 minutes. Add salt, oil, honey or sugar and lemon juice and beat for 1 minute. Add last flour 1 cup at a time, beating between each cup. Beat for about 6-10 minutes until dough pulls away from sides of the bowl. This makes a very soft dough.
Preheat oven for 1 minute to lukewarm and turn off. Turn dough onto oiled counter top; divide, shape into loaves, place in oiled bread pans. Let rise in warm oven for 10-15 minutes until dough reaches top of pan. Do not remove bread from oven, turn oven to 350 degrees F and bake for 30 minutes. Remove from pans and cook on racks.

Basak

Thursday, April 30, 2009

Feast or famine

As you can see by all the posts today, my posting is like my eating -- feast or famine!!! LOL Not good for the body and probably not good for those reading. I'll try to be better -- on both counts!

Basak

Satiation

I didn't even know this word existed until just a few years ago. I kind of like it. Satiate - to satisfy (as a need or desire) or no more desire. I relate this word to "full".

I've been working on identifying my "full" when eating. I don't know if I even know what that little feeling my body would give me feels like. I watch my grandchildren eat and they surely do recognize it -- even when eating a dessert. And I don't know if I really know what real hunger pains feel like anymore. Most of mine seem to be in the head, not in the belly.

So for now, I eat until I feel no more desire. It seems to be working for me. I think I just need to try harder to learn to identify that "full" sensation. I remember an article I read years ago that asked if we'd ever noticed that those people who looked like their weight was where it should be, when eating out, were the ones that left something on their plate. They knew they were full but didn't feel they had to eat it all. I liked that article and have often desired to know I was full but surely haven't done my part to recognize it.

Eating more wheat has kind of helped with that, though. It's amazing that it really doesn't take a lot to feel satiated. When I get there, I do not want anymore. I also know when I have bread for a meal I usually have two slices and I sometimes do not feel full and will have another slice and then feel completely satisfied. I guess I am progressing in this area.

Our bodies really do know what they need and how much they need. Just as in the world we need to be good listeners, we need to be good listeners to our bodies.

Basak

While we're on snacks.....

When did the world start teaching snacks as a part of our daily regiments?

When I was growing up and also while raising my own family, we ate three meals a day. There were no snacks, even after school. I can't remember when it all started to feed our little children a snack at mid-morning and mid-afternoon and after school. And when you're feeding little ones, you always have to have a bite so adults just got on board, too (me)!

I'm trying to not eat snacks and it's making a difference in how I feel -- MUCH BETTER. It's giving me much more self control over what I eat at other times of the day, too. And then when I think about what most people eat for snacks today........ you already know where I'd go with that!

Boy, the world has done a good job on us!! Reminds me of those good words spoken in the Word of Wisdom, "...evils and designs, which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days..."

I just can't remember when this all came about -- the transition. Maybe it was in the years of my children being gone from home and having grandchildren but it's like "fixing" something all day long!

Another person commented that we used to eat large breakfasts -- eggs, wheat cereal, milk from the cow and whole wheat bread and homemade butter. (Those really were the good-ole days and I remember them.) After you got done eating all that, you weren't hungry until lunch. Lunch was the big meal of the day. Dinner was lighter--more whole wheat bread broken up like cereal and covered with milk and sugar in a bowl, with home bottled peaches on top. We used to call it bread and milk.

It surely wasn't a time of just leisurely watching TV between those meals but hard work so when it was time to eat, most were not picky.

She also pointed out that snacks came about when schools kept kids all day instead of sending them home at noon for a home cooked meal, and the kindergartners had graham crackers and milk for a snack. She said, "I actually knew what hunger pains felt like..." And of course, you've all heard this line, "I used to walk 1/2 mile (or longer) to and from school everyday". The big meals stopped during the day about that time as more men worked away from home rather than farming.

I think snacks -- in our not as much expended calorie society -- are not helping us much.

Ah the good ole days -- they did have their advantages and good points. But I really think this is something to consider. Do we all need these snacks? Is this the reason so many are so picky? Is this one reason we are an over-weight society? I know for me, when I start eating, it's sometimes hard to turn it off. And the world's philosophy has done this to me because it wasn't a part of me when I was growing up or when my children were at home.

I'm taking my world back!

Basak

Snack time

Two little boys - 4 and 5 1/2 -- were buggin' me for snack. I was quite busy and they were supposed to be playing -- ya all know how that goes. So to the kitchen I go to try and find something for snack. I had wheat sprouts in a bowl on the cupboard - trying to decide what I wanted to do with them, leftovers from breakfast and they were a little past the sweetest part of eating them but still very good. I'd just made a green smoothie which also had ground sprouts in it. Well, I saw a no-work for me snack and just did it, wondering how it would go over. Their cups were over half full of the smoothie and I just put some sprouts in a little bowl and got them two grain crackers. Of course the sprouts have roots coming out pretty good now and kind of cling to each other. The youngest took some and made the "mmmmm" sound. The older one took some in his fingers and was looking at the conglomeration when I left. When I came back a few minutes later, they were all gone and so was their smoothie! I have to admit, I was quite surprised and I did learn that the spider-like look of the sprouts intrigued them and made them more fun to eat. Oh what we learn when we experiment! LOL

Basak

Eating changes in our lives from a few months ago

Boy, with all that is going on in the world (swine flu), I'm so very thankful for how we eat. We've made major changes in the past six months compared to how we used to eat. We rarely eat out - and here just last night was one of those rarities - we eat much more fresh foods (and it isn't costing that much), we eat many more whole foods, canned foods are going down on my shelves and some are not being replaced and some have even been given to the food bank, we are eating way less meat, and we are eating more correct portions. Our weight is changing and so are our bodies. This all feels VERY good! And it seems "we" are liking it!!!! Amazing! Who would have ever thought??!!!!!! And I'm hoping it's helping our body be maximum in the immune department.

Basak

Pay day

My son asked this morning how he could eat more protein without eating meat. This is one of those "it's worth it" (pay day) times. We discussed lentils and beans and how if you eat them and grains, you get all the amino acids. He then shared that he's "noticed" that when he eats meat, he soon feels kind of bloated. There's that word again -- "noticing". I also shared with him that maybe it's what he eats with the meat that causes that bloating feeling. I've also recently read in the world's information that meat proteins stay with the body and do its work much longer than they originally thought -- sometimes up to three days.

I, too, have experienced what he described but it isn't every time. It seems it needs to be a constant watch. Maybe I should keep an eating journal and record how I feel after each meal. LOL Boy, I already know that but when thinking, it always brings things to mind on what we know we should be doing!

Simpleness is so one of the keys to all of this.

I continue to eat wheat -- in all it's forms. Here goes a bit of "eating journal" LOL Had wheat sprouts (1/2 cup), raisin bran (1/3 cup), 1/4 tsp sugar (I still am hung up on my old life LOL but notice the decreased amount) and milk for breakfast. It tasted wonderful. Had a salad last night that had 1/2 cup of mixed sprouts (which includes wheat) on it and then had one slice of pizza. Yes, I did notice sensations but it wasn't from the salad. I also noticed that increase in weight this morning which ALWAYS comes after eating pizza.

Basak

Friday, April 24, 2009

Answers to prayers

Last night, I was given an answer to a prayer that I've been pondering and working on for awhile. I just had to sit there in awe. It just kind of came out of nowhere because I wasn't thinking about it right then. I love my Heavenly Father. I love knowing He is all knowing and that His timetable is perfect. When inspiration comes like this, it definitely puts one on a spiritual high. Interestingly enough, the TV has been off all week. Amazing how that works. I know that one of these days, I'll also have this prayer about wheat answered.

Basak

An old book on using wheat and progress

When I first began to try and use wheat in more than just bread and cereal, I bought a book on using wheat to eat. Books are good! They save lots of time in the learning process. It sat for awhile and after the gluten making learning and some classes by people teaching how they used wheat, I again got the book out to see what good recipes I could find. The baked products - breads, cakes, etc., - used wheat flour but as I got to the meat/casserole/vegetable dishes, I had to chuckle. I still cook our favorite meatballs using a recipe from this book but the extent of the wheat used was 1/2 cup whole wheat flour to roll the uncooked meatballs in before browning them and other recipes used the whole wheat bread crumbs. How I've progressed in using wheat since then -- throw some (cooked) in spaghetti sauce, chili, soups, etc., and I'll yet be trying some of the salads in this book I just ordered. It's always fun to look back and see the progress and yet also, to see that there is still much to look forward to in learning.

Basak

Thursday, April 23, 2009

Always learning and wondering if it's getting me closer

There are sooooo many good things and helps out there. It makes me wonder why anyone would even want to read my ramblings. But no matter how busy I get, the wheat question keeps popping in and out and when life again settles, it becomes a constant.

However, a good thing learned today, shared by another cohort in the realm of preparedness, was a book. It's entitled "I Dare You to Eat It" by Leisa Card. She's talking about eating the basics of storage -- wheat being a main one. Of course I ordered it and think it will be fun to read. I really liked her website and I like the way she says things -- a fun personality!! You can find that at http://www.idareyoutoeatit.com/ Fun title, huh?!

Basak

A LITTLE ABOUT US

I'm Basak (Grandma). I'm married to a wonderful husband who spoils me and puts up with all my kitchen lab work and in my working to serve others. We have four wonderful children and they have blessed us with sixteen grandchildren. I always seem to be learning something new and I love it.

I met Gwenith a few years ago and she's become a very dear friend. We found we were kindred sisters in the preparedness world. We now live miles apart and yet, the kindred has never dwindled. When we talk, we find we always seem to be going down the same road in the thought process - a miracle in itself.


I'm Gwenith (Honeybee). I have a wonderful husband and two boys who are my jewels. I have known since serving a proselyting/welfare mission years ago that the Lord wanted me to be involved in the 'Provident Living' side of things.

The last several years have been an amazing learning adventure and I thank the Lord for allowing me to be an instrument in His hands in any way. Thank goodness I have a friend to share this adventure with -- Basak. Though Basak seems my peer, not my elder, I lean heavily on her wisdom, experience and most of all her strong spirituality. She is an example to me. My efforts to becoming closer to the Lord have benefited from watching her. Thank you, friend!